Pat Condell:

[Courtesy Harry Hook]

“It seems to me that fundamentalist Christians, jihadist Muslims and settlement-building Jews are causing more than their share of trouble in the world. World events are being driven by people with apocalyptic delusions, while here in Britain a paralysing liberal guilt allows religious bigots to use intimidation and violence to stamp out free speech.”

Can’t disagree with that, Pat.  Now, maybe you can do a similar witty rant about the damage the rabid, bus-daubing atheists do, these tolerant folk who happen to “know” G-d doesn’t exist but somehow can’t come up with any proof or any cogent reason which would stand up in a Philosophy 101 debate;  easy-going folk  who vilify and marginalize any who dare oppose them or else go apoplectic in the attempt.  You might speak of the way, Pat, they have the country running, now that the C of E has bitten the dust.

I look forward to such a rant.  It … er … does work both ways, doesn’t it?


By the way, what’s the essential difference between Pat Condell and Richard Cranium Dawkins?  Pat has wit, logic, a form of sanity and a sense of humour.

10 comments for “Islam

  1. April 22, 2010 at 10:28

    Unfortunately, he seems to support aggressive atheism as well…

  2. April 22, 2010 at 11:15

    All I’d say on this is that the burden of proof lies with the claimant. Atheists, or at least the ones I’ve discussed the matter with, discount all the gods that have been described on the basis of lack of evidence and usually avoid debate around the issue due to the lack of a null hypothesis. If you can come up with a new god, with supporting evidence and a null hypothesis, I’m sure athesists would give it due consideration, until that time, the burden of proof is yours, not theirs.

  3. richard
    April 22, 2010 at 11:18

    You are one of my daily reads, James. I admired your piece re: early date of the gospels as concise and informative. But I feel no need to “prove” the existence of the Almighty than to “prove” the existence of Thor, or Poseidon. All atheists aren’t hostile to ethical behavior

  4. April 22, 2010 at 11:32

    There is a very good case to say that atheists have caused enormous woes. Let me cite the Bilderbergers, Mandelson, Rockefellers, BIS, CBs generally, Goldman Sucks, JPM – all atheists, part of the global socialist religion.

    I think Condell was right on the money in saying fundamentalist Christians, jihadist Muslims and settlement-building Jews have caused a hell of a lot of trouble. But Condell should also look at this other side of it as well.

    Richard, I’m not saying that all are. However, there are many, e.g the Dawkinses of the world who claim to be tolerant, rational people and they quite clearly aren’t. This is what I was referring to.

  5. JD
    April 22, 2010 at 13:27

    “No explanation can help those who do not see beauty; no ‘proof of God’ can help those who cannot see what is manifest in the world”
    “Visible form not only ‘points’ to an invisible, unfathomable mystery; form is the apparition of this mystery…”

    Hans Urs von Balthasar.

  6. richard
    April 22, 2010 at 13:44

    Point taken, James, and a point well-made. However, having no belief in the “Eternal Father” doesn’t stop me perceiving the evils of the New World Order or it’s henchmen. These people are incapable of being ennobled by the good precepts (which I acknowledge) of the New Testament, nor can they feel any empathy for their fellow human beings in any case. The problem is not one of religious belief or otherwise, but their psychopathic tendancies, immorality and greed, and the Statist system which allows such people to rise to prominence.

  7. April 22, 2010 at 14:57


    Parish Church clocks, and horse manure.

  8. Anonymous
    April 22, 2010 at 20:04

    Many members of Goldman Sachs are religious- indeed the foundations of the current financial crisis rests in part upon a macho Christian culture in the states that taught that godliness was the same as wealthiness! But to be honest people of all creeds were involved in the crisis.

    There are plenty of atheists and Dawkins isn’t one of them whose arguments don’t stand up, plenty of religious people whose arguments don’t either. Part of this is to do with the fact that education in philosophy is so poor- part of it to do with the fact that any idiot with a computer and an opinion thinks that the meeting of those two things gives him some kind of intellectual authority, it doesn’t. There is a great merit to Socrates’ advice

  9. April 22, 2010 at 20:59

    Fanatcis, religious and political, have plenty in common with each other. They are all mad, intolerant and sometimes murderous

  10. April 22, 2010 at 22:38


    Now two Parish Church clocks and yet more horse manure.

    Straw men in the wings, no doubt.

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