Tally replied to the post on the Witanagemot:
I’m astounded that the Albion Alliance found some English Nats were for the EU . I’ve been round the traps for a long time and never found any. In my opinion an English Parliament was another way to crack the EU.
We’re a bit cross-purposes here. I wouldn’t have thought any English Nats were for continuing in the EU but the referendum is another question. The problem is one of chicken and egg. Now I have no doubt you’ve been around the traps and are quite astute – you’d know all about 1688 and the ECA.
When Toque says we could have an English Parliament tomorrow and I say we can’t, I’m not saying we don’t have the right or the means. We have both and we also have a substantial number of very angry people out there who would march tomorrow.
Where the Albion Alliance came from was the EU angle, rather than the English Parliament angle and the further we went into it, from the banks of new computers to the legalities in the European Court, the more we realized how we’d been sold out by everyone from Heath and Wilson through to Blair and Brown.
If an English leader [and no one else is going to do it] were to stand up in parliament and introduce a bill to create an English Parliament, then it would exist. It would also have a fair chance in the European Court at this moment, despite all the precedents set by the EU over the past three decades, designed to weaken 1688 and the ECA 1972.
This includes everything from the way legislation is passed and implemented in the EU to the putting in of banks of new computers to the changing roles of the Commission and the EU Parliament and their interconnection – many posts have gone into this in depth, not only on this blog but on many others.
There are two glaring problems:
1. Which leader sees it in his interests to wind up UK plc and institute England? Certainly not any we currently have;
2. The EU has already subdivided England into 9 and the moneys are flowing to the regions even now, with CP graduates in place and already taking over the reins at regional level. Bankrupt UK plc is a nothing at this moment, except in its debt.
On the other hand, the EU has a mountain of aid to disburse and if it does come down to UK versus EU, money will flow to the regions and to the people via them, it will be made obvious that it is EU money and people will have the choice of either supporting the bankrupt UK which is cutting everything in people’s lives, a fledgling England with no financial base or a flush EU.
Already a bit under half the country, the leftists, are not averse to the EU and if it looks like the moneybags is the EU, the bread on the table and the jobs, then others will come on board too. There ain’t gonna be no revolution, much as we’re fond of dreaming of it. Tally, you say once the people wake up. They’re not going to wake up, man; the EU has this factored in and the people will, as mentioned, just as Ireland did, see a benign EU rolling in handouts and a derelict UK which let them down and then threatened to take away what they still had left.
After September, the crashes and the bad times start – the MSM is warning of it, the financial rags are warning of it, all the astute pundits are warning of it. The EU is trying to “regulate” the City – what a joke. The reason is perfectly obvious.
When the EU gets past this last hurdle, at this very moment, of reaffirming the terms of Lisbon, something none of the MSM are talking about, then the way is clear and away they go. The AA looked at the various legal opinions on whether an English Parliament would stand up in the European Court and it was line ball.
You can say to hell with the European Court but because of what everyone from Heath to Brown signed away, UK plc must consider it plus another important point – that because of precedents which have been set, the EU is in a strong legal position to block England. England is not even mentioned in its carve-up.
The only thing which could kill off those precedents is if there was a referendum vote in favour of getting out of the EU. It didn’t stop them in France but it could in England, as they know and fear – hence all the reneging on promises. But that referendum needs to be put now and not later.
Later, the EU will be pouring in the money and no one will be interested in a separate England, except as a naive, historic dream.
The objection raised by critics is that the EU mainly derives its money from the Big Three and if we threatened to unilaterally withdraw, they’d be knackered, which brings us back to the start – who is going to declare this withdrawal, under what circumstances – will it be partial or total – plus one more thing:
There is a wealth of money in Europe, in the Club of Paris, the Club of Rome, in Zurich, in Bavaria and though it is not EU money, it will be drawn on, no mistake because absolutely none of those bastards is going to see the EU fold when it is this close to its goal. This money I’m referring to is the money of the old families, the hidden money, a last resort after the BIS’s fictional money can be stretched no more.
Then it’s all change, let’s drop this capitalism nonsense and in comes the new financial structure.
To sum up
There can’t be an English Parliament until:
1. Some leader stands up and calls for it;
2. Some sort of indication of the people’s will is expressed and the only legit way for that to occur is either in a referendum on the issue or by a ginormous postal questionnaire, funded by a mega-rich businessman;
3. The people see some personal financial gain in it.