If enough people want an English parliament we will get one. Last survey on the subject had support at 68% in favour.
Let’s come back to surveys a bit further on, something which have been the bane of anti-EU forces as well. For now, let’s look at how to achieve that goal. There are steps:
1. We must not fallout with each other in any disagreement over the steps or the method. If a groundswell of people bombard the MSM, block roads, make themselves heard, I’ll be joining you and such things have happened before, when the English finally say, “Enough.”
2. I think we need to see the obstacles though, this time around. Hitler was easy enough in the sense that we didn’t have the legal obligations to Europe at that time and the people were far more as one in the face of the perceived threat. Not this time round.
Christopher Brooker wrote a piece in The Telegraph, on Saturday, entitled “Brussels has broken our power to rule” and in it, he wrote:
The latest findings of Eurobarometer, the EU’s own polling organisation, show that less than half its citizens now believe it is a “good thing”. In many countries, its popularity is at record lows, and only 19 per cent see the EU as “democratic” (in Britain, Finland and Latvia this is as low as 10 per cent).
If that were so, then people are beginning to wake up to the monster hovering over us. He goes on:
Also now on the table are the EU’s options for imposing its own taxes, the front-runner being a tax on financial transactions to which Britain, as a world financial centre, would contribute 70 per cent, more than 300 billion euros a year. Britain and the City will also be hit hardest by the EU’s seizure of control over the regulation of financial services.
Our Chancellor, George Osborne, has just conceded the EU’s right to “supervise” the contents of national budgets, taking away much of a power Parliament has exercised for centuries.
Britain also seems likely to lose what remains of the EU budget rebate won by Mrs Thatcher, putting up our yearly contributions to the EU by another £3 billion – even though, for every £1 we get back from Brussels for our farmers, we already hand over £2 to farmers in other countries.
Note the use of “Britain” and not “England” in the article. These things, Tally, Wyrdtimes and all the other Nats, is what we’re up against. Before backing that up, a quick look at what commenters said to that article:
No, the only chance is that grassroot Tory party workers and activists FORCE their MPs and Party to make a referendum on membership. Ironically , Nick Clegg actually suggested this around the time of the second Irish vote on “Lisbon” ….his view was ignored at the time and I’m not sure if he really meant it or not. [Dwayne]
As I posted elsewhere on this blog, if UKIP ever posed a serious threat to the EU project, it would be subverted, co-opted and vasectomized before it could do any serious harm. This is what has happened already to the Conservative Party and it is happening as we speak to the Tea Party movement in America.
You will not beat the EU or the corruption of British politics by peaceful means. It’s very sad, but I’m afraid this is the reality you must confront. [Jono]
Which brings us back to square one and what many Nats are saying. The difficulty we have among ourselves is that while the Nats are focussed on what bastards the Home Countries are to us and how they’re playing us like a violin, so the EU is also doing, only on a scale vastly dwarfing that which goes on within our Home Countries arena. For a start, we are talking regionalization, already voted against by the English but having crept in again by the back door.
Would you devote just a little time to this article, on which agencies control us. Here is a sampler:
A Community agency is a body governed by European public law; it is distinct from the Community Institutions (Council, Parliament, Commission, etc.) and has its own legal personality. It is set up by an act of secondary legislation in order to accomplish a very specific technical, scientific or managerial task.
At present, the European Community agencies are:
Here is a summarized outline of specifically how the EU formulates policy which we slavishly follow:
Following the ratification of the Lisbon Treaty, the first pillar of EU law has been satisfied, subsumed into the Treaty on the EU (TEU) and into the renamed Treaty on the Functioning of the EU (TFEU). Such treaties provide primary law within all 27 member states.
As the Lisbon Treaty as subsumed allows for self amendment, there will be no more treaties of this kind, only International Agreements that will now be negotiated and sealed by the EU, and former National treaties that will be adopted and form part of the TEU and TFEU, an example of which can be found here.
All other law, in the parlance of the EU, is called Secondary Legislation … the three most important elements of secondary legislation [being] Regulations, Directives and Decisions:
Secondary legislation comprises the binding legal instruments (regulations, directives and decisions) and non-binding instruments (resolutions, opinions) provided for in the EC Treaty, together with a whole series of other instruments such as the institutions’ internal regulations and Community action programmes.
It is important to note that the European Commission, an unelected body, has the power to make law using the methods above without recourse to either the European Parliament or the Council of Ministers. The UK Parliament, our MPs, now only create on their own initiative something in the region of 15% of the laws that pass through Westminster. All other laws and Statutory Instruments are in furtherance of laws that have been made in Brussels using the methods above.
Even opinions and recommendations are far more than that, in the hands of Cameron and Osborne, Blair and Brown because Westminster has been the most craven of all the talking heads in adopting EU “suggestions”. Our government and agencies throughout the UK, including the entire civil service, has actually leapt onto the Health and Safety and Diversity provisions with great gusto.
Hence you have a situation where in Italy, they will follow their own tradition of the Questura to sort out everything from police matters to vetting visas, contrary to EU recommendations but over here, we follow the letter of the EU law.
“We welcome the creation of architecture at the European level that can coordinate national supervision,” Mr. Osborne said in Brussels, where he was meeting with fellow European Union finance ministers.“
*&^%*$#*@&* !!!! And that’s only what’s going on at the top. Dotted throughout our own community are quislings happy to sign over our nation and its right of self-determination to Brussels, if it will mean peace and security plus that fuzzy, warm equality and diversity, so beloved of the soft-left. It won’t mean that, of course, it will mean the opposite – command and control over every aspect of our lives but how can we tell that to people who have the vision before their eyes?
In all key posts throughout the former UK, there are now Common Purpose graduates, ready to “lead beyond authority”, should the natives get uppity about the agenda. By natives, I mean the English Nationalists who’ll be first in the firing line. Lads, we just don’t know what we’re really up against. There is a substantial proportion of the population, sadly, who will not support this aim but will turn us in to the authorities, them armed, us not.
The bottom line
The bottom line is that we have a hell of a lot more difficult job getting an English Parliament set up because our government has enthusiastically signed away all bar 15% of our right to self-determination. I’m afraid the English Nats can’t ignore this because it is not a specifically English matter, in their eyes.
Toque said his disagreement with me was that I wanted to use the Witanagemot to push anti-EU matters. The Lord above wept. What England? Where now? Where is it? In all practical matters, from defence through to the NHS, where is England anymore? It’s been sold out.
Please check out this IPJpost:
From that NYT article again, The finance ministers agreed on Tuesday to create agencies overseeing insurance, banking and market trading, as well as a European Systemic Risk Board. Gosplan all over again.
I’m not going to even start on the social agencies which will control social propaganda in our country. So I come back to the comment by the stalwart Wyrdtimes, with the heart of oak:
An English parliament is far more likely to give us a referendum on the EU than the “UK” parliament. Personally I think an English parliament is just about the only way out of the EU.
I dearly wish that were possible but … how? Given that no leader at all is pushing it and given the post above which summarized some of the myriad ways we are now controlled, how will an English Parliament come about?
And Christopher Brooker again:
Of course, if we still had the power to run our own country, this crisis in the NHS and much else besides could be sorted out within months, But since our Government seems quite happy to continue handing over even more powers to this crazy system, there is nothing we can do about it – until eventually the whole lumbering, labyrinthine, unaccountable, undemocratic mess implodes under the weight of its own contradictions.
You make your voice heard on the streets and you’re in the slammer for hate crimes, maties. Our own police force, acting under instructions and regulations from Brussels, comes to ensure you do not continue to destabilize the new state.
There it is.
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