As with everything else, there’s a middle way which is more efficacious. In politics, in the silent gender wars, in any field of activity where one side takes it to extremes – those extremes are never correct because the truth is more complex than that.
The main value in nationalism is pride in one’s heritage and harmonious relations within the society, along with initiative and variety – a feeling of pride in who we are, an affirmation. Who’d really want to be an EU clone with all differences smoothed away? On the other hand, who wants a fascist state, founded on the premise that “we are better”?
The global socialists [the elite] are attempting to reduce us to serfs so they can rule in all their incompetence. That’s to be resisted at all costs. As someone who’s spent most of his life away from home, I’m hardly the role model for a nationalist. Most of my relationships have been with “foreign” women for a start. However, nationalism is a most useful tool in the war against Them.
Plus inheritance, democracy, the family and so on. There’s a big difference between having pride in one’s country and a mindless form of jingoistic patriotism which is why the French really thought they were better in WW1 – that famous French elan which meant that the French fighting man was worth more than those from other nations. That is mindless c**p, just as much as the way we carry on about our Empire.
Twere’nt ours – twas the global elite’s and it suited their book for colonies to be formed. The Boxer rebellions were far more than jingoistic national pride – it was because the Chinese recognized just what they had on their hands with these evil muvvers, the elite.
John Buchan, in The Thirty-Nine Steps, put words into a field agent’s mouth:
Away behind all the Governments and the armies there was a big subterranean movement going on, engineered by very dangerous people. He had come on it by accident; it fascinated him; he went further, and then he got caught. I gathered that most of the people in it were the sort of educated anarchists that make revolutions, but that beside them there were financiers who were playing for money. A clever man can make big profits on a falling market, and it suited the book of both classes to set Europe by the ears.
And on nationalism:
They won up to a point, but they struck a bigger thing than money, a thing that couldn’t be bought, the old elemental fighting instincts of man. If you’re going to be killed you invent some kind of flag and country to fight for, and if you survive you get to love the thing. Those foolish devils of soldiers have found something they care for, and that has upset the pretty plan laid in Berlin and Vienna.
Are you proud of your nation, of the culture you were born into [not now of course]? Fine, so am I. Which country is that, by the way? Wessex, Northumbria, England, Britain, Wales? The EU superstate? If you think the latter is the solution for us – why? Don’t you love your country?
Which country? Hitler was an Austrian. If you’re American or Canadian, do you feel part of the great motherland of English speaking peoples? Would you favour a confederation of English-speaking peoples, with your nation in charge of course? Could you marry a Russian or Frenchwoman? I could. Serbs too.
I saw something yesterday in the report on the GB-Australian volleyball, describing Australia as the old enemy. LOL. That’s interesting because what does that make me – a Yorkshireman who is also Australian? Cognitive dissonance – c**p on me from a great height please. I don’t feel at home down south although I recognize that people living down there, the poor sods, have not experienced G-d’s own country up here.
Do you make fun of Brummies? What about oo-er west country people? And as or the Kernows! Best not even to mention the Scots but they’re less feisty than the Welsh. And are all the Irish mad bombers? And there’s something strange with Lancastrians, which we sort out with them in the Wars of the Roses cricket each year. Was Botham a traitor going to Somerset or whichever southern county he went to?
Cavendish is a Manxman or whatever they call them, not a Brit. It was in all the news. What is Murray?
Why do I feel more affinity with southerners than with Yorkshire people of my family home, despite the wind-ups above? Why do I feel more affinity with Witterings in Witney than with the guy next door here, salt of the earth though he is? And as I’m oop north, why do I feel not a lot of affinity with Geordies, though I’ve mates over there? Surely us “northerners” should stick together, as they did in the Wars of the Roses.
Nationalism has its purpose and if you’re born into a nation, then you take on the mores, the education, the heritage. That’s where you belong, not in some artificial club of Rome dystopia. More than that, as John Buchan said:
They [meaning Them] struck a bigger thing than money, a thing that couldn’t be bought, the old elemental fighting instincts of man. If you’re going to be killed you invent some kind of flag and country to fight for, and if you survive you get to love the thing.
Many of us don’t buy that cynicism. We’d like to think we’re all going to join together again, as in WW2 and fight the Hun or the Iranian. I’d suggest there are people, a large number of them, ready to sell out Britain/England/whatever to the Enemy, [currently manifesting itself as the UN/EU but these things will pass], so just how many are going to sign up, and who with? Gordo signed us up to a foreign power, the traitor.
Sure we have trouble knowing who we even are but at the same time, we know very well who we are and won’t have a bar of Continentals running our affairs. Some of us will even sign up to a Dad’s Army to defend these shores again, even though the quislings are everywhere around us at home.