Seems the Swiss also have the problem:

A group of nomadic Jenish people hit the headlines in late April when they arrived in the capital Bern, and set up camp to protest the lack of places made available to them. Switzerland’s “most attractive town”, for example, has “no interest” in respecting their rights. 

Tricky, a real NIMBY situation.

We have these people up the road.   So far, not an issue for me but they’re still there.    Next door, the factory was broken into and much stolen but it turned out to be an inside job and the perpetrators found some rough justice it seems.

The objection is part aesthetic, is it not?   Take a local football reserve, let’s say they set up camp there, clothes lines hung out etc. – should they be allowed?    Seems to me it’s not so much an ethnic issue and the reason I say that is that I’ve spoken to mooring masters on the canal who have rules about anyone – Brit, anyone – staying long term onboard and starting to set up tents on the grass, having washing lines of smalls etc., right where the clubhouse is.

It’s significant that the mooring masters don’t mind what they do further downriver out of sight.   Should there be a Pikey Park then in various locales across the country?   If public space is made over and no facilities, what would happen?   By the way, my clothes line runs down the centre of the boat inside, so that I don’t uglify the area.

8 comments for “Travellers

  1. wiggia
    May 8, 2014 at 15:31

    There would seem to be a large minority of the traveling community that whatever is done for them it is not enough, it is an easy bandwagon to jump on vilifying travelers, but sadly much is justified as it is not just the law they ignore but other peoples property and way of life including threats real and otherwise of violence.
    I wrote a long while back about the farce of Dale Farm when I lived near there in the seventies and even today that is not solved totally and has cost a small fortune to the taxpayer.
    Your last paragraph James is answered again in a reply I did for a similar article some time ago, that when in Suffolk there was a permanent site with all facilities built on the outskirts of Bury St Edmunds, they completely wrecked it and removed anything that could be moved, nothing was done about it and a few years later under pressure to provide “space” for these people it was rebuilt with all the facilities, it was wrecked and everything that could be was stolen again a couple of years later.
    Shortly after that the “Travelers Union” started berating the local authority for not having the required quota of sites in the area, comments are not necessary.

  2. May 8, 2014 at 19:01

    Some years ago a group of travellers parked themselves on derelict land by a local railway station. Slates soon disappeared from the roof of a nearby empty house and one day a guy calmly defecated on the railway track next to a crowded commuter train. It’s difficult to accept them when a minority do this kind of thing. If it is a minority.

  3. May 8, 2014 at 22:02

    and one day a guy calmly defecated on the railway track next to a crowded commuter train.
    My office used to be situated on an industrial park and far too often the travelers took up residence on the unadopted roads or on the carparks of nearby offices. Deficating in full view of our office was a frequent occurence on their part. And when evicted by the police they left all their rubbish and sometimes a dog behind. When they left it was necessary to hire someone to sanitise the areas they had occupied. Or to put it in blunt terms… clean up their crap!

  4. May 8, 2014 at 23:01

    And that is the issue – the behaviour and the self-entitlement.

    • May 9, 2014 at 00:18

      And that self entitlement by this particular type of people is allowed by the state. They claim they want to drop out of society but they are the ones that line up on the dole queue to get ‘Free Money’ from the society they claim they want no part of!!

      I suspect all the current changes in the benefits laws will not address these people and they will still be allowed to claim free money without providing anything to the wider society.

  5. May 9, 2014 at 03:32

    Thorns. Now there is an idea.

  6. ubermouth
    May 9, 2014 at 22:06

    If they want to live on the fringes of society I say buy their own land[they are usually well heeled].

    Given land owners are not able to do much on their own land without planning permission, I can’t see how they think they are entitled to squat where they like, to do what they like as if land owners, exempt from the rules the rest of us have to abide by.

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