Celtic Missed

Interesting to read this:

The analysis also springs some surprises. There was no single Celtic population outside the Anglo-Saxon dominated areas, but instead a large number of genetically distinct populations (see map). The DNA signatures of people in the neighbouring counties of Devon and Cornwall are more different than between northern England and Scotland. And there are also unexpectedly stark differences between inhabitants in the north and south of the Welsh county of Pembrokeshire.

Interesting because of a book I have [Book of General Ignorance], which asks how long have the Celts lived in Britain?

Since June 21st, 1792.

It was then that a group of London bards staged a ceremony on Primrose Hill, involving a stone circle made from pebbles, claiming they were reviving a ritual stretching back to the ancient Celtic nation and its Druids.

Prior to this, there is no record of the word Celt having been used to describe the pre-Roman inhabitants of Britain or Ireland and it was certainly never a term they used to describe themselves.

The word Celt was coined by the Greek historian Herodotus in 450BC, when he described the peoples of the headwaters of the Danube, north of the Alps.

Edward Lluyd was apparently the miscreant who spread the Celtic myth.

3 comments for “Celtic Missed

  1. Rossa
    March 19, 2015 at 07:03

    My family’s history appears to support this. On the Scottish side we can trace the name back to parts of northern Ireland. In the 5th or 6th century a distant ancestor is believed to have traveled with, and as a follower of, the man who became known as St Columba to Iona. From there the clan was established on Skye.

    Though I do use the term Celt it is more to describe my colouring of red hair, white skin and grey/blue eyes which are racial characteristics. In fact that side of the family is considered to be from Gaul (France) before Ireland.

    If I’m not from the Celtic races, then the question is which race and what is/was it called? We’re not Anglo Saxon to look at who were dark haired and swarthy. That’s more like the Welsh and Cumberland side of my family who have that colouring. Both of these ‘races’ are through my paternal grandparents.

    • March 19, 2015 at 07:14

      Yes, I’ve certainly got the redness or at least had, plus I know there’s Irish blood in there. Overall, I’d blend in more in the south of England, not Londonistan. Never did get to the bottom of it all. I suspected Jewish blood at times but nothing in the history seems to indicate it.

  2. Rossa
    March 19, 2015 at 07:54

    There seems to some dispute over the origin of the word Celt, whether used in its modern or ancient terms. The report on the BBC supports your post in that the people we call Celts did not call themselves that etc. Though as we weren’t there at the time how do we know that?

    On Wiki it says otherwise with ancient Celtic writings dating back to the 4th century. Though not necessarily in Britain. The map on this Wiki page shows the spread of Celtic peoples from Central Europe through to Ireland.


    Rossa’s Mum isn’t sure Anglo Saxons were dark haired. I thought it was the Vikings who were the blondes. I guess that the Germanic peoples may well have been blonde as a lot of Northern Europeans are. But then having seen tanned, red headed, Arab Berber nomads in the Atlas Mountains when we visited Morocco I know that tracing ‘colouring’ to its true source or defining it as such is virtually impossible.

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