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Acknowledgements

Many thanks to “Distant Relative” and also to Ken Craggs, plus to those who commented.

Foreword

The attempt is to look at as many aspects of the Jews [as we erroneously know them] as possible, also attempting to avoid the connections with Christianity and Islam over the eons.

There is so much wild emotion in relation to these peoples, something seen in the Evian conference of 1938 [Part eleven], that I thought I’d try to present as neutral a look as possible.

Down to business

Being cognisant that a Certain Personage above might be gazing down, observing, then if He exists, He would also be aware I know next to nothing about the Jewish people.

I don’t mean I’ve not read copious amounts and even written copious amounts – go back to my early blogging and plenty throughout – so much has been written about them and about the end times, the Jewish Temple, Palestine before the late 40s … and so on.

And I taught for years at a Jewish school. Plus the last third of my long book is set around Haifa/Har Megiddon, which took a hell of a lot of research.

I know next to nothing about the Jewish people, even after that. There’s some sort of blank comes into it and in reading anti-Semite works and pro-Semite, even down to how you spell the term, it’s still no clearer in the mind.

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The anti-Semite side of it is almost entirely anti the sort of people in the photos above and below, it’s against all the major world undermining, which really does have Jewish overtones, such that Churchill once attempted to come to terms with it:

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SOME people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world.

Yes. There are many races which have persisted, e.g. the various strains of Chinese but none have had the most complete influence behind the scenes as the Jewish [or whatever term you wish to use – Israeli]. And over such a long time.

The conflict between good and evil which proceeds unceasingly in the breast of man nowhere reaches such an intensity as in the Jewish race. The dual nature of mankind is nowhere more strongly or more terribly exemplified.

We owe to the Jews in the Christian revelation a system of ethics which, even if it were entirely separated from the supernatural, would be incomparably the most precious possession of mankind, worth in fact the fruits of all other wisdom and learning put together.

On that system and by that faith there has been built out of the wreck of the Roman Empire the whole of our existing civilization.

I get impatient with people who flatly refuse to acknowledge the term Judaeo-Christian – that is indeed our underpinning, with earlier pagan elements and later Enlightenment elements thrown in, not to mention Classical elements in learning.

And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time [when Churchill wrote of course] be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible.

It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical.

It’s almost as if they’ve brought a complete system down through the ages – the seeds of doom and the seeds of redemption, all wrapped up in the one package. Very strange stuff.  The negative side we’ll return to in Part two, in Churchill’s next, now famous bit.

Firstly, my own experiences with the topic, as a context to these posts:

1. I recall my mother once coming out and saying, my father also at another time – don’t give it to “the Jews”, meaning money, meaning through credit, meaning a credit card.

Apart from my mother once referring to “a touch of the tinted” or was it “a touch of the chocolate box” about someone in a picture, plus her giving me a gollywog she’d knitted, plus giving me Little Black Sambo books – apart from those, I can’t recall anything that modern leftism would construe as racist.

Essentially, I grew up in a near-entirely WASPish community, not particularly religious but still accepting the notion, we didn’t even go to church on Sundays, though we obviously went in churches for weddings and funerals.

2. My father once or twice mentioned the Jews in relation to his standard sepia-toned photo album of the war, with that particular handwriting they all went in for on photos at that time. I’ve mentioned it on this blog a few times – he was standing on the banks of the Jordan [don’t quote the name of the particular river], gazing over at the Jewish side – verdant, orchards etc. and then back at the Arab side – desert. He made some choice remarks which must have been shared by the other troops from what he said.

That was the start of my positivity towards the Jews. And of course, I bought the Holocaust thing, Ann Frank etc., as we all saw those images … and those faces were most certainly Jewish, not Arab. As you’re going to explode over that, pointing out the Semitic origins of so many in the middle-east and how the hell can I tell the difference, I won’t argue.

3. Teaching at that Jewish school was an education in prejudice against us, the Gentiles, how we, the host nation, were treated and so my view was line ball after that. Yet there were educated Jews, including one young Rabbi, who was excellent on the topic and so that pulled my view back somewhat. At that time, I had a rather large property and invited the staff out there for lunch one day. I remember the Chief Rabbi most impressed about the size of the land – as far as I was concerned, it was out in the sticks and I soon after moved to the city.

4. Years later, at another school, I hung on for a few days there into the summer, prior to a flight out to Australia to see the folks and a Jewish school had hired the complex for some weeks. A group of kids went past, speaking of this or that as kids are wont, when from behind, down came a young Khassidic [sic] teacher, from what I could gather, and suddenly he had them chanting and clapping in Hebrew or Yiddish, whatever, all the way down that path. I detest crowds in unison at any time and that one left a nasty taste in the mouth.

Because in that was fanaticism, precisely what we accuse the Muslims and fire and brimstone preachers of.

In my early blogging at Stephen Pollard’s site, I mentioned this and one young British Jew went absolutely ballistic over me, calling me a Nazi [others had called me Jew-lover to that point] and what got me was the explosive nature of it – there was no middling, “well they’re just people, aren’t they, some good, some bad”. Nope, I had to be 1000% totally pro-Jewish and putting only the Jewish view or else I had to go full BNP blackshirt about it all.

My reaction was: “Don’t tell me what to think about things, I’m perfectly capable of finding out for myself.”

And what I recall from those “discussions” was just how much rancour and sheer, blind hatred there was from BOTH sides, just as with Christianity, just as with left-right politics. Well my parents advised me not to speak of sex, politics or religion in polite company.

None of which gets down to the question of the Jews itself.

Part 2 will continue with Churchill.

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16 comments for “The Jews [1]

  1. Harry J
    February 11, 2017 at 20:39

    “We owe to the Jews in the Christian revelation a system of ethics which, even if it were entirely separated from the supernatural, would be incomparably the most precious possession of mankind, worth in fact the fruits of all other wisdom and learning put together.

    On that system and by that faith there has been built out of the wreck of the Roman Empire the whole of our existing civilization.”

    James, would you mind explaining what you mean by the above quote. In what way is the ethical basis ‘of our existing civilization’ owed to the Jews?

    Surely the Bible, Old and New Testament, was a revelation from God. The Old Testament being essentially a book about the Israelites (as is, arguably, the New Testament), Judah being just one of the twelve tribes (and later one of the two Houses). Whether or not the ‘Judeans’ of Jesus’ time were actually of the seed of Abraham is highly debatable to say the least.

    I’m afraid I’m one of those who ‘flatly refuses to acknowledge the term Judaeo-Christian’. Judaism and Christianity are two very different belief systems and that’s before the Talmud is taken into consideration. Christianity has been overwhelmingly our ‘underpinning’. I have an understanding as to what Christianity is. What exactly is ‘Judaeo-Christianity’?

    • February 11, 2017 at 23:10

      That will take a post. Shall get straight onto it on Monday. It might start with Matthew 5:17, moving onto the Ten Commandments.

      • Graham Wood
        February 12, 2017 at 20:34

        James. This looks like a very interesting, if not ambitious (!) series, but I have only read the first part so far.
        Without wishing to complicate things there is I think one fundamental question which arises, (an age old one – long debated over time) and raised by the NT itself, namely in Romans 2:28/29. Raised by Paul the Apostle who himself was a Jew.
        Arguably he is saying here that a “real” Jew is no longer one who can be identified by his racial/ethnic origins, of which circumcision was but an outward symbol, but rather one who has experienced what Jesus reminded Nicodemus was necessary (John 3), namely a spiritual new birth. In a different way he repeats the same thought in Galatians 6:16.
        I am not of course asserting that ethnic Jews do not exist now, but that under the New Covenant, which supercedes the Old they no longer have a national identity as they had under the Old Covenant.

        • February 12, 2017 at 22:54

          Phew, you ask the curly ones. I wouldn’t know but shall search about.

    • Graham Wood
      February 12, 2017 at 21:14

      Harry; “In what way is the ethical basis ‘of our existing civilization’ owed to the Jews?”
      I think James’ quote from Matt.5:17 is a good start on this question, as the “law” mentioned by Jesus in that verse referred to the whole corpus of Jewish law found in the Old Testament which He fully accepted, namely Mosaic law, or all that is laid down in the books of Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, but not confined to these.
      But specifically the Mosaic code (ten commandments) because it is a moral code regarded by Jews and Christians as being a perfect set of values to define a ‘vertical’ relationship between God, and a ‘horizontal’ relationship governing relations between men.
      Thus historically that code symbolised a perfect moral basis for all men to follow and Jesus and the Apostles amplified and expounded the true moral meaning of that OT law.
      So this element of Judaism cannot be divorced from the teachings of Jesus Christ (he too was a Jew),
      and I agree with those who claim that Western Christian civilisation is itself founded on the precepts of Mosaic morality.
      So Christianity and Judaism are, as it were, joined at the hip and this is reflected in almost every book of the New Testament as well I think.
      So whilst there is continuity between the ‘Old’ and the ‘New’, the Gospel record is not a “patch to be sewed on the old garment of Judaism, but a wholly new garment”.

      • February 12, 2017 at 22:53

        Yes, to Harry and Graham – though I cobbled together those 11 parts, I’m very much in learning mode, even this evening on the Pharisees and Sadducees. My mode is presenting what I find on all this, not winning any debates. Other efforts by you to help this are greatly appreciated.

  2. Distant Relative
    February 13, 2017 at 08:27

    The term “Judeo-Christian” – American spelling.

    “The first recorded uses of the term “Judeo-Christian” were in England in the 1820s, though it was used quite differently than it is in today’s political rhetoric. The term was first coined by protestant missionaries who used it to refer to those Jews who had “seen the Christian light” and chosen baptism, though it took more than a century for “Judeo-Christian” to enter the general lexicon.

    The term was actually popularized by liberals in the 1930s at the newly-founded National Conference of Christians and Jews who, concerned about the rise of American nativism and xenophobia during the Depression, sought to foster a more open and inclusive sense of American religious identity.”

    http://religiondispatches.org/what-do-we-mean-by-judeo-christian/

    • dearieme
      February 23, 2017 at 14:48

      “The term was actually popularized by liberals… [who] sought to foster a more …”: i.e. it was propaganda.

      • Distant Relative
        February 23, 2017 at 14:58

        Aye. Prop-agenda 😉

  3. Distant Relative
    February 13, 2017 at 17:08

    Jews not Zionists: The Difference between Judaism and Zionism [G. Neuburger]

    http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/jews-against-zionists.html

    “One most vital point deserves mention. A former president of the World Zionist Organization has stated explicitly that a Zionist owes unqualified loyalty to the Zionist state and that, in the case of a conflict, the first loyalty of a Zionist must be to the Zionist state. According to Jewish law, however, a Jew owes allegiance and loyalty to the country of which he is a citizen, and, of course, no faithful Jews owes any loyalty or allegiance to the Zionist state which has been condemned by the foremost rabbis of our age.”

  4. February 13, 2017 at 17:21

    Cheers.

  5. Distant Relative
    April 17, 2017 at 16:47

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