Thoughts on early populations

Once again, a really pratty video but some good charts in there:

The main theme running right through was ‘intermingling’, a second theme is whether you’re coming from the Judaic literature, from anthropologically centred archaeology or from some some other source – there’s much intermingling here too.

While the Torah and subsequent books certainly concentrate on the Judaeic lines, those early peoples were far more ‘peoples of the world’ rather than specifically Jews – especially through Japheth’s line:

Somewhere in there, external influences came in, e.g. the giants and so on, and therefore corruptions, e.g. in Assyria and Egypt. The OT is notoriously unreliable in that it gives part stories and snippets of stories, also can the apocrypha be trusted, e.g. Enoch, Jubilees?

Gomer => NOrthern, Celts [not by that name],
Ashkenaz => Germans
Riphath => Turkey
Togarmah => Armenia, Georgia
Magog => Swedish, Goths, parts of Germany
Medai => The Medes, also Mittani people, just north and north-east of current Israel, also the Kurds

Trouble was that Persia in there were Shem’s people and thus => intermingling [nice word, that]. Also with Ham => a mess. Continuing with Japheth’s line:

Javan => Greeks. His children:
Elisha => Cyprus, Thessalia
Tarshish => Carthage
Kittim => specifically Larnaka in Cyprus
Dodanim => Rhodes
Tubal => Italy, Spain
Meschech => Phrygians, some Georgians
Tiras => Thrace [southern Bulgaria today, Greece,Turkey]

Obvious implications

Many who speak of these things are way offtrack, through either ignorance, through other sources, e.g. gnosticism, and/or through mendacity.  In a sense, to kill the Jews or discriminate against them – which of all the above, plus Shem and Ham, does one start with?

Scarlett Johansson and Hitler were both Ashkenazi – it does make all wars start to look a bit stupid, all the horror, the atrocities.  In fact, the atrocities seem far more to be part of the non-human invaders of this dimension, with a view to enslaving, making life a misery for and eventually destroying humanity.

It also makes the OT an interesting set of books if you know where to look.

But a word of warning.

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10 comments for “Thoughts on early populations

  1. dearieme
    February 22, 2019 at 15:00

    I don’t know why I bother with this sort of tosh, but I can at least try to reduce the embarrassment.

    “Samaritans [Indo-Euro]”: the good Samaritan was not a speaker of an Indo-European language. Maybe you meant the Sarmatians?

    • February 22, 2019 at 15:24

      Yep, he was a bit astray with the Samaria thing, being further north but the Celts is right, in particular Wales.

      https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/gomer/

      The Samaritans themselves don’t seem to be sure of their origins. Just confirms to me a whole lot of intermarrying going on.

      • dearieme
        February 22, 2019 at 20:56

        “The Samaritans themselves don’t seem to be sure of their origins.” Happily I am. They are the remaining trace of the Northern Kingdom i.e. Israel rather then Judah.

  2. Bill
    February 22, 2019 at 19:09

    Where are the Scythians in this fantastic tale?

    • February 22, 2019 at 21:06

      They are in there, ’twas reading of them in the mix.

      The trouble again is our sources. For example, someone using designations BCE and CE is wonky before even starting, has certain skewed views. BC and AD is safer but still no guarantee.

      An example is this bollox of ‘out of Africa’ but that would require a series. Just as with the IPCC in the climate area, there seems a lot of narrative-driven false conclusion going on with certain types of professors, usually on a payroll I’d wager.

  3. Harry J
    February 23, 2019 at 01:00

    Quite a few assertions in the video, seemingly without anything to back it up.

    For another angle on the Jew/Israelite/gentile ‘debate’ below is a paper by someone called Arnold Kennedy. His position (I think) could be summarized as that the Anglo/Saxon/Celtic/Scandinavian/Nordic peoples are the lost 10 tribes of Israel. Of course there’s a great deal more to it than that and if you’re interested you can read his essays. The one on the word ‘gentiles’ would be a place to start.

    I came to this subject when I was still writing my blog. My original intention was to debunk the idea. Unfortunately the deeper I dig the less I’m able to.

    Current events, particularly mass immigration and the relentless preoccupation with race mixing, viewed through this prism begin to make some sort of sense. Food for thought at least.

    http://israelect.com/reference/ArnoldKennedy/'Gentiles‘.pdf

    https://israelect.com/reference/ArnoldKennedy/

    • February 23, 2019 at 01:03

      Thank you.

      • Harry J
        February 23, 2019 at 11:03

        If you manage to get time to read any of it I’d be interested in your take on it all James. Or indeed anyone else who looks through it.

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