Once again, a really pratty video but some good charts in there:
The main theme running right through was ‘intermingling’, a second theme is whether you’re coming from the Judaic literature, from anthropologically centred archaeology or from some some other source – there’s much intermingling here too.
While the Torah and subsequent books certainly concentrate on the Judaeic lines, those early peoples were far more ‘peoples of the world’ rather than specifically Jews – especially through Japheth’s line:
Somewhere in there, external influences came in, e.g. the giants and so on, and therefore corruptions, e.g. in Assyria and Egypt. The OT is notoriously unreliable in that it gives part stories and snippets of stories, also can the apocrypha be trusted, e.g. Enoch, Jubilees?
Gomer => NOrthern, Celts [not by that name],
Ashkenaz => Germans
Riphath => Turkey
Togarmah => Armenia, Georgia
Magog => Swedish, Goths, parts of Germany
Medai => The Medes, also Mittani people, just north and north-east of current Israel, also the Kurds
Trouble was that Persia in there were Shem’s people and thus => intermingling [nice word, that]. Also with Ham => a mess. Continuing with Japheth’s line:
Javan => Greeks. His children:
Elisha => Cyprus, Thessalia
Tarshish => Carthage
Kittim => specifically Larnaka in Cyprus
Dodanim => Rhodes
Tubal => Italy, Spain
Meschech => Phrygians, some Georgians
Tiras => Thrace [southern Bulgaria today, Greece,Turkey]
Many who speak of these things are way offtrack, through either ignorance, through other sources, e.g. gnosticism, and/or through mendacity. In a sense, to kill the Jews or discriminate against them – which of all the above, plus Shem and Ham, does one start with?
Scarlett Johansson and Hitler were both Ashkenazi – it does make all wars start to look a bit stupid, all the horror, the atrocities. In fact, the atrocities seem far more to be part of the non-human invaders of this dimension, with a view to enslaving, making life a misery for and eventually destroying humanity.
It also makes the OT an interesting set of books if you know where to look.