12 comments for “Bombers

  1. Obligato
    June 25, 2019 at 09:03

    1 They are Lancasters
    2 Hamilton Ontario, saved from scrapping in 1970s by the foresight of the local British Legion branch

  2. Lord T
    June 25, 2019 at 09:51

    Agree with Obligato althought I just knew Canada. (Its a big place)

    However there are more than two remaining. Most are in museums but there are still two that can fly and are used at air shows and the like.

  3. dearieme
    June 25, 2019 at 10:19

    An uncle of mine was a radio operator on these. I have an impression that he was taught some elementary navigation skills to use if the navigator was incapacitated. Am I imagining that, or could it be true?

    • John, UK
      June 25, 2019 at 11:09

      Could be, or maybe he started out on a navigators course and transferred to wireless operator for some reason. Reg Payne, a Lancaster wireless operator, states in “First Wave” – an excellent account of a 30-raid tour by the way – that he was also responsible for the safety equipment on board, and he had to familiarise himself with all the guns as he was also trained as an air gunner he case he had to take over from an injured crew member at any time.

    • bobh
      June 25, 2019 at 13:04

      I can’t remember the details, but can recall reading about a navigator in the North Africa campaign. I think he was flying Wellingtons.
      His pilot was shot up and collapsed over the stick. The navigator had never flown before but had watched, so given the alternative of bailing out and capture, he decided to have a go.
      He successfully managed to fly it back and land safely. He was then sent to train as a pilot.

  4. microdave
    June 25, 2019 at 10:46

    The Linconshire Aviation Heritage Centre is working towards returning their Lancaster (NX611 “Just Jane”) to airworthy status. That will mean 2 of the 3 flying examples left in the world will be stationed just a few miles apart!

    https://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/

    And a video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXEsMrITsWA

  5. June 25, 2019 at 15:24

    Nice vid. Rollicking stuff eh?

    https://youtu.be/e1mh99ZLXcw

  6. Stewart
    June 25, 2019 at 16:28

    I’ve just spent an afternoon learning about Frazer Nash gun turrets thanks to this. I feel stupid – I always though they were just fixed bubbles with moving guns, but that’s nothing of the sort:
    https://youtu.be/MsXdqdGgJO4

    Lancaster crew radio, extraordinary:
    https://youtu.be/MF5_hvE4WEA

    • June 25, 2019 at 20:59

      It really is interesting to explore these things. Video at 13:30 tomorrow.

  7. dearieme
    June 25, 2019 at 21:17

    So if the wireless operator covered for the gunners, who covered for the navigator? The co-pilot? Also, who did the bomb-aiming? Again, the co-pilot? The navigator?

  8. dearieme
    June 25, 2019 at 21:20

    This is quite helpful but it doesn’t say what you do if your navigator is dead.

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/whos-who-in-an-raf-bomber-crew

  9. June 25, 2019 at 21:22

    Hope for the best? Or everyone has a smattering of each skill?

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