The lies surrounding the whole Cv business come down very much to sources again. One cannot quote from any source unless its bias is known … all sources are biased, so one chooses the bias which has previously been not far from the mark or else is trusted.

There were two items came through here today. One was a glossy article with Science plastered over it and ‘independent journalism’ as the byline. A bit like the left wing ‘Independent’ rag in the UK. One must be eternally on one’s guard.

It was trying to make out, in a Sientifik way, that the virus has been shown to be non-human made. Utter bollox in the sense explained below but not utter bollox in isolation.

Establishment pushback, masquerading as ‘independent’, not unlike Snopes – be very careful with anything calling itself ‘independent’ or purporting to bring you ‘the facts’.  I want to know the bias of the author before I read anything.

Let me go into that further.  The thesis was that the virus came ‘from nature’, that it was not man-made but that is sophistry, legerdemain.  Of course it’s from nature but not in the way that article said.  The article tried to pooh pooh any human involvement, which is not so if you look at this clip:

This is what I mean by being supercareful. If you can’t access that, Tucker Carlson made a correction from the previous evening – the virus came out of that particular bat but there were no bats in that market at all, they had people on the spot. The bats were in a lab not far from there. Now that puts a different complexion on it. That ‘Science’ article had said it was natural – fine, it was. From a bat. But it failed to mention that there were no bats in that market.

The second missal was about the drug about to have clinical trials:


No one has approved any mass use before clinical trials but the anti-Trump camp is trying to make it appear so. I’ve no particular love for Sandoz but they’re certainly going to be cautious. With it likely to blow up in their face if it goes wrong, of course they’re going to say that at the end of the link.

The message to me said that there were side=effects of the original drug, including blindness. Yes – as far as that goes – yes. It also suggested the drugs were just going to be distributed without trials – no one knows that but Sandoz at least is sending them on the basis that they are held back until the trials confirm or deny.

And that is a different slant to the one which came in. I see James Wilson has put a video in comments and the same conditions apply. What is that man’s bias – I don’t give a damn about his reassuring manner – I want to know his background, his agenda, his bias first before assessing whether what he posted is worth it.  It might be, it might not … but caution is needed.

10 comments for “Hydroxychloroquine

  1. james wilson
    April 1, 2020 at 17:31


    Scientist with his own company in San Diego appears to have a targeted cure (not a vaccine)
    Whole vid is good or go from minute 17:00

  2. Bill
    April 1, 2020 at 19:09

    This is still current with apologies if shared already.
    Status of COVID-19

    As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

    The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

    The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

    Carry on squiffy.

  3. Distant Relative
    April 1, 2020 at 19:18

    We should realise by now which side Fauci is on. If you can make it to the end you are a better man than me Gunga Din.


    Money-making scam too.

  4. JohnM de France
    April 1, 2020 at 20:16

    There is a bit of a hoohar (?) going on in France about Hydroxychloroquine as this report says. It looks as if it goes right to the top.


  5. April 1, 2020 at 20:40

    These are provided by Chrysalis:

    This particular page lists those who have registered with the government to perform clinical trials for treatment of COVID-19 that you can follow the process of yourself if you don’t trust the media:


    There’s also an international consortium site that lists all of the international institutions working on COVID-19 vaccines (preventions) that are in the works:


    I’m giving you links to the actual studies for you to decide

  6. Twisted Root
    April 1, 2020 at 20:56

    What is a virus?

  7. Doonhamer
    April 1, 2020 at 21:18

    That’s easy for you to say.

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