Stop the rockets then see who’s the aggressor

_45375807_466-afp-hamas-rocketIn sorting out the Middle-East mess and separating fact from propaganda, the Beeb does not help by reverting to form and putting the Hamas side word for word.

Did Israel over-react?  Yes  and who wouldn’t if they’d been bombed every day, contrary to the rules of sovereignty and war, with absolutely nothing beyond lame slaps on the wrist to Hamas and Hezbollah and absolutely nothing said to the supplier, Iran.

Did they use phosphorus?  Yes and they need to be hauled over the coals for that.  Should Israel be asked to cool it in its treatment of border crossers or West Bank residents?  Yes.  Was there collateral damage in Gaza?  With human shields and Hamas’ tactic of putting military operations deep in civilian territory, yes there was.  You’ve seen the vids – you know Hamas used this tactic.

Which Israel was it?  Given that there are three sides of politics – whoever the combatants are and then Them, who was ordering the atrocities?  Have you ever looked at Jewish belief?  There is the religious type, the secular Jew and then the Jewish Kabbalah that Madonna so adores, enough to mock a crucifix at a Moscow “concert”.

No prizes for guessing who is at the controls in Israel – the same side at the controls in Iran, Britain and the U.S. – nationless, global and nasty.  Blair is one of them – sold his soul to the global elite in 1993 and the rest is history.  Now he’s about to show his treachery by becoming President of a false construct. At the very least, he betrayed England, as Brown is doing now.

If it is beyond any doubt that the same people financed both sides in WW2, then why would that have altered now?  If the same people financed the Bolsheviks and Imperialists in Russia, then why would it be any different now, given that these people are intergenerational?

Now look at Hezbollah and Hamas – outrageous by all UN sanctioned international standards – who is actually constraining them?  Absolutely bloody nobody.

You can call Israel a construct if you like but you’d be inaccurate.  To argue over whether they were there first or the Canaanites were is a ridiculous argument when the bottom line is that they were all there long, long ago, by our standards and as such, each has a right to territory as a nation.

There was an agreement mapped out by independent arbiters and Israel accepted it, to become the nation of Israel.  The Arabs conceded nothing whatever and attacked Israel militarily, over and over, even on a religious holiday.  Who was wrong in this?   If you try to circumvent that and say, obliquely, that that doesn’t excuse Israel, then I bring you back to answering this first point first before we get onto yours.

Who wouldn’t let whom exist AT ALL when Israel was first promulgated?

Now Israel is relinquishing territory in the West Bank and they’ve already relinquished claims to Gaza and built a zone defence.  How many countries do you know who’ve ever voluntarily done that, in the interests of being allowed to live in peace?  And what happened?  How did Hamas thank them for getting out of their “homeland”?

By reigning rockets down on Israel every day.

You tell me by what standards that is acceptable and please don’t answer it by citing something you’ve found about Israel being bad to the Gaza.  The question was – by what standards was that  action of continual bombardment by rockets acceptable?

The answer is simple in the U.S.A. – produce the birth certificate.

The answer is simple in the Middle-East – stop the rockets and any other military threat to Israel, a sovereign nation.  Then we can start scrutinizing Israel closely to see if they are the aggressor, after all.  But there’s no way you can call Israel the aggressor whilst the bombs still rain down.

That’s sheer stupidity.  They are clearly the reactor.

6 comments for “Stop the rockets then see who’s the aggressor

  1. ivan
    October 15, 2009 at 09:46

    Well said. Everyone ignores the fact there never was a state of Palestine until Arafat – an Egyptian – saw a way to glory for himself.

    As far as I’m concerned the Israelis should never have given back any land – after all, what did the arabs do with the working farms they got in Gaza – destroy them, then look for hand outs from the fools in the west.

  2. October 15, 2009 at 18:28

    You know my view, James, and I joined the Conservative Friends of Israel in Manchester last week. Hamas’ main aim is the destruction of Israel. What are the Israelis to do? Accept the bombing and not react? Britain would never do that and neither should Israel.

  3. October 15, 2009 at 19:12

    Wow the terrorists-apologists havn’t made it on here yet.

    You clearly know my view of the continuing attack on the sovereign state of Israel 🙂

  4. October 15, 2009 at 19:41

    That land was given to the Jews by God. And I am half Iranian. Iran should keep out but won’t because it follows an evil Islamic code misused by extremists. The middle east is huge and all Palestinians could be rehoused and given a good life in other countries….so I say to the Islamic nations that support the Palestinians “Rehouse them in your own countries”…….and let peace prevail. How much would it cost to give every man woman and child a decent house in the middle east compared to the cost of the current climate?

    TC

  5. October 15, 2009 at 20:54

    I don’t do conspiracy theories and I am a “friend of Israel” despite not being a Neo-Con. End of.

  6. October 15, 2009 at 21:30

    I am rather sceptical of the abilities of “Them” to control events effectively. That aside , I am sure that if nobody attacked Israel, it would leave its neighbours alone.

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