In sorting out the Middle-East mess and separating fact from propaganda, the Beeb does not help by reverting to form and putting the Hamas side word for word.
Did Israel over-react? Yes and who wouldn’t if they’d been bombed every day, contrary to the rules of sovereignty and war, with absolutely nothing beyond lame slaps on the wrist to Hamas and Hezbollah and absolutely nothing said to the supplier, Iran.
Did they use phosphorus? Yes and they need to be hauled over the coals for that. Should Israel be asked to cool it in its treatment of border crossers or West Bank residents? Yes. Was there collateral damage in Gaza? With human shields and Hamas’ tactic of putting military operations deep in civilian territory, yes there was. You’ve seen the vids – you know Hamas used this tactic.
Which Israel was it? Given that there are three sides of politics – whoever the combatants are and then Them, who was ordering the atrocities? Have you ever looked at Jewish belief? There is the religious type, the secular Jew and then the Jewish Kabbalah that Madonna so adores, enough to mock a crucifix at a Moscow “concert”.
No prizes for guessing who is at the controls in Israel – the same side at the controls in Iran, Britain and the U.S. – nationless, global and nasty. Blair is one of them – sold his soul to the global elite in 1993 and the rest is history. Now he’s about to show his treachery by becoming President of a false construct. At the very least, he betrayed England, as Brown is doing now.
If it is beyond any doubt that the same people financed both sides in WW2, then why would that have altered now? If the same people financed the Bolsheviks and Imperialists in Russia, then why would it be any different now, given that these people are intergenerational?
Now look at Hezbollah and Hamas – outrageous by all UN sanctioned international standards – who is actually constraining them? Absolutely bloody nobody.
You can call Israel a construct if you like but you’d be inaccurate. To argue over whether they were there first or the Canaanites were is a ridiculous argument when the bottom line is that they were all there long, long ago, by our standards and as such, each has a right to territory as a nation.
There was an agreement mapped out by independent arbiters and Israel accepted it, to become the nation of Israel. The Arabs conceded nothing whatever and attacked Israel militarily, over and over, even on a religious holiday. Who was wrong in this? If you try to circumvent that and say, obliquely, that that doesn’t excuse Israel, then I bring you back to answering this first point first before we get onto yours.
Who wouldn’t let whom exist AT ALL when Israel was first promulgated?
Now Israel is relinquishing territory in the West Bank and they’ve already relinquished claims to Gaza and built a zone defence. How many countries do you know who’ve ever voluntarily done that, in the interests of being allowed to live in peace? And what happened? How did Hamas thank them for getting out of their “homeland”?
By reigning rockets down on Israel every day.
You tell me by what standards that is acceptable and please don’t answer it by citing something you’ve found about Israel being bad to the Gaza. The question was – by what standards was that action of continual bombardment by rockets acceptable?
The answer is simple in the U.S.A. – produce the birth certificate.
The answer is simple in the Middle-East – stop the rockets and any other military threat to Israel, a sovereign nation. Then we can start scrutinizing Israel closely to see if they are the aggressor, after all. But there’s no way you can call Israel the aggressor whilst the bombs still rain down.
That’s sheer stupidity. They are clearly the reactor.